Friday, January 15, 2010

Does Prop 8 make the schools teach about gay marriage ?

I live in California and I am a parent and I do not need a public School teaching my daughter about gay marriage. She will learn about it from society when she is ready but I am kind of concerned about that. And if so do I vote no or yes to keep that from happening?Does Prop 8 make the schools teach about gay marriage ?
schools MUST teach about gay marriage in schools. Parents can't opt out their children and aren't warned about the instruction. Don't listen to dweebs like Diane Feinstein (new commercial) that says otherwise. The state's education website says 96% of schools are currently teaching about it. What happened to parental rights?





The prop only defines marriage. of course it doesn't mention about teaching children about it. We don't need to have it say this because it's HAPPENING NOW!Does Prop 8 make the schools teach about gay marriage ?
Why don't you take a few minutes to read PROPOSITION 8 and what it says.





It says NOTHING about education - Nothing at all...





But you can bet that the right wing Evangelicals would set-up all sorts of biased teaching s once Prop 8 passes. They are the ones you need to protect your daughter from.





Whoever gave you that information is wrong, and you should not be taking any advice from them.





Read and learn for yourself. Don't trust people with agendas to tell you what to think.





Be a strong knowledgeable Anerican.. Not a sheep..





Remember Insurance companies are playing pupet masters to the Evangelicals on this one. Married people mean more insurance pay-outs.
Marriage is only even MENTIONED during the health education portion of the curriculum. You, as a parent, have a right to remove your child from that portion. Your child will NOT be deliberately taught anything about it without your consent.





Rather than just wondering, why don't you ask your child's teacher about it? Since gay marriage is currently legal in California, ask the teacher when and if marriage would even be mentioned.





And give teachers some credit here. No teacher is going to try to convince their class to only marry someone of the same sex. ';Yes, boys can marry other boys but some people don't think that's right'; is a 100% accurate statement.





Your yes or no vote means nothing about education. What a Yes vote would do is ELIMINATE the rights of a certain group of people (homosexuals) to marry and get the government-granted rights, privileges and benefits of another group (heterosexuals).





And, no, the ';Separate but equal'; ';Domestic Partnerships'; aren't the same as marriage. As just one example, the couple in a Domestic Partnership MUST live together; there is no such requirement for a marriage.





Besides, when has ';Separate but equal'; EVER been truly equal? Or even constitutional?
Not directly. But if it is considered a Civil Right, the it will be mandatory to go over that. I believe the 3rd grade starts talking about Civil Rights. My cousin is a 4th/5th grade teacher and has seen the Standards for 09/10 school year and there IS a section on marriage, and how anyone can marry. Then, as we both know, kids ask questions, and a teacher can not turn a question away if it is a civil right. SO yes, they WILL be learning about it.





Marriage started with religion. I am a teacher and don't teach about God in my classroom, so the government should stay out of my church. I have a gay uncle who has been with the same man for over 35 years, and they are yes on prop 8. They understand marriage, have a civil union, and refuse to agree with NO on prop 8. I respect that. Have you ever heard about SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE? It goes both ways.
I just looked up the California's Health Framework for California


Public Schools Kindergarten Through Grade Twelve at the Department of Education website.





The Health Framework is the Health Education curriculum standard for California's public schools. One of the topics to teach according to the standard is called ';Family Living.'; (p.63). Here is the actual excerpt from the framework:





Family Living


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A functional family unit is vital to the well-being of children. Children usually develop best when they live in a stable environment with their mother and father and receive from their parents consistent love, support, and direction.


However, children from nontraditional families can also develop success-fully. Given the variety of nontraditional families in contemporary society, it is important that children not reared in two-parent families be convinced that their situation can also be conducive to growth and development.


Further, it is important that children not be denigrated because of their living arrangement or the composition of their family. All students, regardless of their current living arrangement, can benefit from classroom instruction and discussion on family living. They can learn how they can contribute to making the family unit harmonious and successful now as well as in the future鈥攚hen they will likely become parents.


This content area promotes the development of positive family interactions in all types of families, including those that face unusual challenges. Families that have members with physical or mental disabilities can experience major effects on patterns of family interaction. Ideally, families can adapt to these challenges and in fact may develop stronger, more supportive family relation-ships as a result. Members of these families should feel comfortable participating


in classroom discussions of family interactions.


Instruction in family living also focuses on sexuality, the reproductive process, dating relationships, and the selection of a mate. ....Health Education


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Because parents should be the primary source of sex education and values relating to this subject, they must be notified before lessons in sex education are offered. sexual activity is strongly encouraged because it is the healthiest course of action for young people. 鈥︹€he Education Code permits parents to withdraw their children from this portion of the health curriculum.


Decisions regarding developing specific instruction in family living within the parameters of legal requirements rest with school districts. The approach of this framework is to encourage districts to work with parents and community members in developing curriculum, especially in the area of family living. The intent of the curriculum in this content area is not to invade the privacy of families and their right to teach values to their children but to assist families in teaching about family living and encourage effective family communication.


Because of the sensitive nature of this content area, school districts may wish to arrange same-sex groupings during presentation of this portion of the curriculum to younger students. 鈥?br>




So, schools are required to teach ';family life';. I am afraid that if gay marriage becomes legal, schools are required to teach gay family life and the current framework will be re-written. I don't mind or care what gay people do in their bedrooms, but I don't want my children to have to learn about it in K-12.
whether prop 8 passes or not, schools are NOT REQUIRED to teach about gay marriage. However, that does not mean they WILL NOT teach it.





think about it.
How about they don't teach your daughter about marriage at all. They can just lie and tell her everyone is single. It's not that far from the truth anyhow. Most marriages don't last all that long.
I don't remember taking Marriage 101 when I was in school. Has the curriculum changed? Why do you think schools would ';push'; any particular type of lifestyle?
No. They don't have to teach ANYTHING about marriage.





NO ON PROP 8!!


Its unfair. and wrong. just like the commercials say.
yes it will...........within a few years!! it will become part of the curriculum and will be taught as early as the age of 5!!


vote YES!! to keep this from happening!
I hardly think teaching your daughter tolerance is a bad thing...
Vote yes to ban gay marriage.
No. Schools don't even have to teach about marriage between and man and woman.
She probably already knows more than you think she does. Children are like that.
No, it doesn't. But she watches TV for God sakes doesn't she?
Under California Education code a school that teaches sex education and includes marriage would be required to include all forms of marriage. Meaning that if they cover heterosexual marriage they would have to give the same weight to gay marriage.


However, not all schools include marriage in their sex education, so I suggest you ask your school, when it is time for your daughter to have sex education. I believe it starts in 5th or 6th grade. What is included in sex education is decided on a local level so every school district is different.


Also under California law, you can opt your child out of it. You must sign a permission slip for her to have sex education at all. So if you feel that she is not ready yet you can not sign the slip and she will start her sex education later, when you feel she is ready.





Personally I would suggest you not include that in your decision to vote yes or no. You ultimately will have control over what she learns no matter what happens. That is your right as a parent.





The text of Prop 8 itself has nothing to do with schools. It is an amendment to the california constitution. Currently same sex couples can get married. A yes vote eliminates that right and changes the constitution to state that only a marriage between a man and a woman will be valid and recognized in California (although all currently married same sex couples remain married). A no vote continues to allow same sex couples to marry and the CA constitution remains exactly how it is.





Unlike in Massachusetts, California parents always have the last say in what their child learns. Prop 8 does not change that.
Voting no on Prop 8 may or may not cause schools to teach it. Really, it all depends on the school district, the school, and the teacher.





BUT, I also want to point out that voting yes on Prop 8 won't keep it from being taught in schools either.


Times are changing, and I'm pretty sure gays and probably gay marriage was already being talked about in school before gay marriage was even legalized.



Prop 8 does not require the school to teach about gay marriage or marriage period. It is the parents' job to teach their children what they want to believe, however it is also everyone's job to keep discrimination out of our constitution so by voting NO you will be teaching your children not to discriminate, and how you want them to perceive marriage is your personal business
I had the same issue as you. I was for NO on this prop. until I started doing some research on what is happening in MA. The supporters of this prop. claim it can't happen in our schools but I'd rather be safe than sorry.





Here's an article on what happened in MA:





http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun鈥?/a>
A yes vote sanctifies marriage between man and woman. The bull dykes in the CA shool system want to recruit kids into the life style.
Gay marriage should not be taught in school. I believe it is wrong and so do the republican party. It was not Gods plan.
Wow...


The prop has nothing to do with teaching it in school, it's just about if it should be legal or not...
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